hi there, you can call me rozenesia – a pseudonym of course. i am living in yogyakarta, tackling (previously) international relations and now cultural anthropology. relatively new to being a freelance web designer. hail half-time blogging!
[after rozenesia accidentally creates a fool previous entry]
Reverend Phillip Shooter:
“Stop! Stop this please! Let us stop this mindless violence! Nicholas my son, you may not be a man of God, but surely you are a man of peace?”
Sergeant Nicholas Angel:
“I may not be a man of god reverend, but I know right, and I know wrong, and I have the good grace to know which is which.”
Haven’t clear yet? Okay, let me show you the scenes.
By the way, at NWA meeting Reverend Phillip Shooter just recognized (Sergeant Nicholas Angel is being introduced to the NWA for the first time and expresses his religious convictions to Reverend Phillip Shooter) Sergeant Nicholas Angel as an agnostic, not an atheist. So am I. 
Don’t ask about religion, please. I wonder why my friends from the class of International Relations department don’t know about agnosticism and the concept after all. For sure, maybe I’ll get black-and-white judgment. Guess why? 
“I put no stock in religion. By the word religion I have seen the lunacy of fanatics of every denomination be called the will of God. I’ve seen too much religion in the eyes of murders. Holiness is in right action, and courage on behalf of those who cannot defend themselves, and goodness. What God desires is here–in head–and here–in heart–and what you decide to do every day will make you a good man…or not.”
Hospitaller of Jerusalem — Kingdom of Heaven
Uh-oh, it answers the question. This is my art of believing, eh? 
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Credits:
- dialogues and screenshots ~ captured violently from Hot Fuzz movie.
- quote ~ taken from Kingdom of Heaven movie.
- entry’s title ~ modified brutally from You, Me, and Dupree movie.
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celo =3 19:07 on 12.16.2007 Permalink |
lha…???
celo =3 19:07 on 12.16.2007 Permalink |
pertamaxxx…???
celo =3 19:09 on 12.16.2007 Permalink |
bro… do you ever read this …???
it’s all I can say for now… you know.,.. I hate this language… I am blacksmith
celo =3 19:09 on 12.16.2007 Permalink |
lha…??? lha…???
celo =3 19:10 on 12.16.2007 Permalink |
leave out all the rest…
aRuL 19:12 on 12.16.2007 Permalink |
sip… mantap lah…
niez mo ujian 19:14 on 12.16.2007 Permalink |
hmm, ya.
Xaliber von Reginhild 19:18 on 12.16.2007 Permalink |
That sergeant must have killed someone, for that reverend speak in a manner like that.
…or he’s going to kill that old man?
*ngomong ngga jelas*
With my dizzy head and sleepy eyes, I cannot get what you mean here but a problem about agnosticism…
Xaliber von Reginhild 19:19 on 12.16.2007 Permalink |
*a problem with agnosticism…
Ralat.
Xaliber von Reginhild 19:19 on 12.16.2007 Permalink |
Terjemahan bebas Indonesianya.
Hettrix.
celo =3 19:22 on 12.16.2007 Permalink |
The real is… he wanna save that old hag from teh eternal flame… CMIIW
Praditya 19:32 on 12.16.2007 Permalink |
Wah telat…
rozenesia 19:38 on 12.16.2007 Permalink |
@ celo =3 [1]: What?
@ celo =3 [2]: Rite, fella.
@ celo =3 [3]: Yarp, but it’s so ridiculous if they ALL do not know anything.
@ celo =3 [4]: Yes?
@ celo =3 [5]: Amen.
@ aRuL: Yarp.
@ niez mo ujian: Yes, what?
@ Xaliber von Reginhild [1]: Please read wikipedia page, sir.
Eh, watch the movie!!
@ Xaliber von Reginhild [2]: Roger.
@ Xaliber von Reginhild [3]: ….
@ celo =3 [6]: Is that so, dude?
@ Praditya: Be quick, I’m famous…
celo =3 20:14 on 12.16.2007 Permalink |
nay.. you miss the point bro… no one has been a bookworm like you… they like shoping and do others cool stuff… but please… knowing about religions…??? it’s sucks..
rozenesia 20:20 on 12.16.2007 Permalink |
@ celo =3: Tsk… All I can say is why ALL of them like shopping and do other things…
(I didn’t want to tell ALL of them don’t know, but I haven’t meet someone that stand well with agnosticism)
…but, my first sentence isn’t the fact after all. I know someone from C class and he said that he ever heard about agnosticism. But I’m not sure with his concept.
This isn’t about ALL and no one, I like my flying words.
celo =3 20:36 on 12.16.2007 Permalink |
okay… you use ALL… you’re just teasing me or something…???
yeah… in my point of view… at this age… it’s my time to pick a girl and make her happy… and I don’t think that a religions conversations can make her happy… I’m just a boy… and boy at my ages prefer to spend their money with teens’ stuff and that isn’t a religions…
rozenesia 20:42 on 12.16.2007 Permalink |
@ celo =3: I used ALL for nothing.
By the way, human is plural. And I am sore that I am not only one…agnostic at my department.
I this moment, it will be OoT sooner.
celo =3 20:52 on 12.16.2007 Permalink |
I don’t think it’s gonna be OoT… we talk about you, me and agnosticsm rite
yes maybe you’re not the only one… honstly… I’m a litle bit agnostic… but can you just open your eyes…??? can’t you see that people at our ages know nothing about agnosticsm… thei have something important thing to think than agnosticsm…. in this age.. much people thinks that religion is a God wishes… we just do it… not think why we must do it… because it’s a God wish…
All hail God….
sorry for my lack grammar…
rozenesia 21:02 on 12.16.2007 Permalink |
@ celo =3: Anytime~
Sooner or later.
In Stages of Faith (by James Fowler) we’re in 3rd stage, arising in adolescence, called Synthetic-conventional faith. It is a stage characterized by conformity, where one finds one’s identity by aligning oneself with a certain perspective, and lives directly through this perception with little opportunity to reflect on it critically.
But not all of teens are in 3rd stage. A few of them are in 4th stage, called Individualistic-reflective faith. A stage of angst and struggle, in which one must face difficult questions regarding identity and belief. So am I.
celo =3 21:11 on 12.16.2007 Permalink |
*blow up in the second*
rrrr…. that you said that you was one step higher than any boys…??? then, why you keep pursuing other boys to know what agnosticsm is… comon bro… everything has their own time… they’ll know what agnosticsm is… but it’s not now… In stages of faith (by James Fowler) we should at the 3rd stage… thay find their identity at this stage… and that isn’t agnosticsm but consumerism…. don’t blame other boys just because you’re one step higher than them….
qzink666 21:18 on 12.16.2007 Permalink |
*berasa tinggal di Inggris*
rozenesia 21:19 on 12.16.2007 Permalink |
@ Celo =3: Nope. This is not step, this is stage.
There’s no higher or lower. Because this is like a cycles. As the result of an research, 50% of adults stuck at this stage and become believers, ’till the end of their time.
Those that pass 4th stage usually do so (angst and struggle) in their mid-thirties to early forties.
rozenesia 21:20 on 12.16.2007 Permalink |
@ qzink666: Is that so?
celo =3 21:25 on 12.16.2007 Permalink |
my mistakes then… I beg your parden miss… *it’s beter to surender if you’re sleepy than using that kind of magic words => fucking agnostic, fucking atheis, burn’em down*
yeah… I don’t think so…. you can jump from the first stage to the last… there must be some kind of process there… and believe… not all the boys at our age… think the way you thinking… I think, there’s so many important thing to think than think about agnosticsm…. pay the electricity bill may be
*I’m sorry I can’t surender so easilly, because if I do that, the disscuss will end then it just a trashcan*
celo =3 21:26 on 12.16.2007 Permalink |
@qzink666…. sorry, I think we speak french here….
rozenesia 21:38 on 12.16.2007 Permalink |
@ celo =3 [1]: Te~Hee~ 1st to the 6th?
It is impossible, for me, not to visualize terms when reading the progression from 3rd to 6th. In 3rd, for instance, the ego is dominan. The majority of the population walks on 1st, 2nd, and 3rd. 
@ celo =3: I wanna french fries so badly…
Pyrrho 21:41 on 12.16.2007 Permalink |
it’s so familiar….
*retrieve my memory*
*rehearsal*
*oh, i found it*
*eureka*
but it’s my own secret, my dear…!!!
*conversation with the demon in my head*
*confused*
rozenesia 21:43 on 12.16.2007 Permalink |
@ Pyrrho:
celo =3 *fucking conections* 21:47 on 12.16.2007 Permalink |
nay… ahh I get it… in 3rd stage the ego is dominan… and people at your age… usually is in the 3rd stage right…???
*smiling*
rozenesia 21:48 on 12.16.2007 Permalink |
@ celo =3 *fucking conections*: Yarp.
Huh!? What’s wrong with you?
bacteria 23:17 on 12.16.2007 Permalink |
gak ada terjemahanya ya ?
mbelgedez 00:26 on 12.17.2007 Permalink |
Siyall….
I’m late.
But, it’s nice Post Rozen…
Onigiri Tahu Kentang Kol Bayam Mawar (hah?) 00:29 on 12.17.2007 Permalink |
buset
inggris semua. nggak mengerti. otak saya blank!
ladokutu 00:29 on 12.17.2007 Permalink |
tarmax mardun
omong omong??
cK 01:21 on 12.17.2007 Permalink |
is it about agnosticism, eh?
*pusing*
almascatie 01:24 on 12.17.2007 Permalink |
this about believing? love? hate? or hmmmmmmm
or..or…. orari aja dah
danalingga 01:24 on 12.17.2007 Permalink |
i’m religous enough, i think. So not agnotism man.
*ngelap keringat*
**kok pada posting linggis ya?**
stey 02:14 on 12.17.2007 Permalink |
[...]What God desires is here–in head–and here–in heart–and what you decide to do every day will make you a good man…or not[...]
quote yang pas banget..tapi kita negara beragama..
Luce 02:20 on 12.17.2007 Permalink |
bwlajar inggris napa bang?
btw Gun, lo yakin kg diri lo dah ad di Inital D 4th Stage?
caplang™ 02:41 on 12.17.2007 Permalink |
agnostik apa siy?
Kopral Geddoe 03:37 on 12.17.2007 Permalink |
Ane kok ndak paham, ya?
(apa karena sedang pilek, otak ga jalan?
)
annots 04:01 on 12.17.2007 Permalink |
Ditunggu terjemahannya
Hoek Soegirang 04:02 on 12.17.2007 Permalink |
hmmm…I know more a lot about the what of the where I go to when someone to be fool like me…
jahhh…….
Goop 08:22 on 12.17.2007 Permalink |
OOT :
atas saya ini ngomong apa??
Sawali Tuhusetya 08:32 on 12.17.2007 Permalink |
anything this motif, I didn’t the action by force and also enforcing of certain doctrine, and surely in problem of religion and belief : mrgreen:
*sorry banget, bhs linggis saya belepotam, hehehehehe
Moerz 08:33 on 12.17.2007 Permalink |
AH ITU bom ya yang dibadannya….
yasalam pengen mati…
CY 09:33 on 12.17.2007 Permalink |
Im not familiar with English, so next time post it in Indonesia. Or, I will be OOT, u got me??
CY 09:35 on 12.17.2007 Permalink |
after reading English I always got headache, so next time.. u know what I mean… got me???
CY 09:36 on 12.17.2007 Permalink |
hetrixxx is better than headache… I bet u know that
dobelden 10:15 on 12.17.2007 Permalink |
you post this for adsense??
haha…. peace men
goop 10:20 on 12.17.2007 Permalink |
Ah maaf, ya hoek, saya malah ngakak membaca komennya
Kamuh, memang menggirangkan
rozenesia 10:38 on 12.17.2007 Permalink |
@ bacteria: None, sir.
@ mbelgedez: Thanks.
@ Onigiri Tahu Kentang Kol Bayam Mawar (hah?): Oh yeah? Simple english, eh.
@ ladokutu: Humnn… Sorry, I don’t get your point, sir.
@ cK: Rire, sista~
@ almascatie: Plase take a look at comment above, sir.
@ danalingga: I’ll not interrupt your choice, sir.
@ stey: God isn’t about religion at all. Atheist isn’t same as irreligious.
@ Luce: I don’t know, but I think so, brother…
@ caplang™: Click… Click… Click…
@ Kopral Geddoe: What the heaven!?
Impossible for you, brother!!! I don’t believe thiss!!!
@ annots: Surely you won’t get it.
@ Hoek Soegirang: Heee…? I don’t get the point, achoooo…
@ Goop: Whatever…
@ Sawali Tuhusetya: *confused* Eh, I think belief is a part of free will in Christianity, sir.
@ Moerz: No, sir. You’re wrong.
Just watch the movie.
@ CY [1]: Yeaaa…
@ CY [2]: Oookaaayyy…
@ CY [3]: Cis…
@ dobelden: Nope.
@ goop: Same here, sir.
Junarto 10:59 on 12.17.2007 Permalink |
*so tau mode on
Can you confirm my understanding.
Agnosticism followers suggest there is no strong evidence that God exists though they do not completely reject the existence of God. So you just postpone your decission, right? On the other hand, you deem that the possiblity of God’s existence is so little. Thus, His existence is not meaningful enough to be counted on as considerations. It means, you throw out God as the atheism followers do. Am I right?
caplang™ 11:06 on 12.17.2007 Permalink |
artinya?
jadi inget status ym-nya hehehe
rozenesia 11:12 on 12.17.2007 Permalink |
@ Junarto: Agnosticism can be divided into several categories, sir. I wrote in my agnosticism side, agnostic-theism or religious agnosticism. I don’t claim to know existence of God (or Gods), but still believe in such an existence.
@ caplang™: Hmnn… Who?
Muhammad Zulfikar 12:05 on 12.17.2007 Permalink |
Salam Kenal
Kunjungi blog saya juga
di : http://zulfikars.wordpress.com
rozenesia 12:11 on 12.17.2007 Permalink |
@ Muhammad Zulfikar: Nice to know you, sir.
indiegal 14:36 on 12.17.2007 Permalink |
*serasa tinggal di Inggris… masa abad pertengahan*
Uchiha Miyu 15:03 on 12.17.2007 Permalink |
Quote yg hbt! ><
rozenesia 15:19 on 12.17.2007 Permalink |
@ indiegal: Howeee…? Dark Age?
@ Uchiha Miyu: Which one?
deKing yang biasa2 saja 21:02 on 12.17.2007 Permalink |
Inggris semua?
*pingsan*
Sebenarnya yang salah itu apa/siapa ya?
Cynanthia 22:27 on 12.17.2007 Permalink |
Hyaduh… busyet dah. Nggak ngerti, materi kali ini terlalu berat untuk otak…
tukangkopi 23:57 on 12.17.2007 Permalink |
Ho..ho…!gw takut salah komen. jadi absen aja..
Lemon S. Sile 00:33 on 12.18.2007 Permalink |
“Religion and I don’t mix, I’m afraid”
quoted from Balthier-FFT
eMina 01:04 on 12.18.2007 Permalink |
why ?
eMina 01:06 on 12.18.2007 Permalink |
sebetulnya saya baca judulnya saja.
inggris..inggris…
*pergi jalan -jalan*
eMina 01:08 on 12.18.2007 Permalink |
sebelum pergi, saya hetrik dulu deh
*kabur ke ujung berung sebelum dihajar*
andi bagus 01:39 on 12.18.2007 Permalink |
hmm…
andi bagus 01:42 on 12.18.2007 Permalink |
ra ngerti kuwi filem utawa novel aku..:(
steax 02:05 on 12.18.2007 Permalink |
Seriously, I can just imagine the old guy pulling out dual handguns and firing rapidly while somersaulting. Then it goes into slow-mo bullet time.
rozenesia 04:11 on 12.18.2007 Permalink |
@ deKing yang biasa2 saja: Simply, sir.
What/who?
“the lunacy of fanatics of every denomination be called the will of God”
@ Cynanthia: As you wish, milady.
@ tukangkopi: It’s okay, sir.
@ Lemon S. Sile: Balthier? Who?
FFTA? FFT TWotL?
@ eMina [1]: Please take a look at Hospitaller’s quote.
@ eMina [2]: I don’t mind.
@ eMina [3]: …
@ andi bagus [1]: Yes?
@ andi bagus [2]: This isn’t about movie after all, sir.
@ steax: N-nearly…!!!
Reverend Phillip Shooter: Stop! Stop this please! Let us stop this mindless violence! Nicholas my son, you may not be a man of God, but surely you are a man of peace?
Sergeant Nicholas Angel: I may not be a man of god reverend, but I know right, and I know wrong, and I have the good grace to know which is which.
Reverend Phillip Shooter: [Dismissive] Oh – fuck off grasshopper! [Produces two pistols from his robe sleeves and shoots Nicholas]
Officer Danny Butterman: NO! [Raises his shotgun and shoots Reverend Shooter]
Reverend Phillip Shooter: [In shock and pain] Jesus Christ!
Officer Danny Butterman: [Rushing over to Nicholas] NICHOLAS! [Nicholas looks up at him] I thought you was a goner!
Sayap KU 05:18 on 12.18.2007 Permalink |
Gak tahu musti comment apa kalo ngomongin agama… tapi ide tulisannya bagus bagus makanya setiap hari mampir kesini.
-Ade-
sigid 05:44 on 12.18.2007 Permalink |
Darn, why the heck is everybody speak english?
Pardon me, but I don’t know much ’bout agnosticism.
In fact, usually don’t pay too much attention to another man’s faith.
Since I got no clear understanding with this “You, Me, and Agnosticism” post.
Would you be please explain me with brief, what this post exactly trying to say.
In Bahasa Indonesia please …..
sigid 05:48 on 12.18.2007 Permalink |
Can I make a hattrick in english?
sigid 05:48 on 12.18.2007 Permalink |
Yeah, it’s a hattrick …
rozenesia 06:15 on 12.18.2007 Permalink |
@ Sayap KU: So on. Thanks.
@ sigid [1]: Complain to my lecture, sir. She asked me.
Hohohohoo… Love this~
Heheheeeee… I just want to tell about me, belief, and my way of life to my friends (in may department) and my lecture after a long long long discussion in English class (about Politic & Religion) a few days ago.
Hmnnn… Maybe I can say this entry is a sequel of this.
@ sigid [2]: …
@ sigid [2]:
shinobigatakutmati 06:28 on 12.18.2007 Permalink |
inggris……. maknanya apa ya…. o_O?
ekowanz 07:02 on 12.18.2007 Permalink |
damn udah komen 78…aq telat
benbego 07:09 on 12.18.2007 Permalink |
keren juga tuh scenenya. nyolong dimana?
qzink666 08:31 on 12.18.2007 Permalink |
Huh, Sok british..
*muntah*
extremusmilitis 09:33 on 12.18.2007 Permalink |
Did the agnosticism kill you?. I thought it should not. So believe what you believe. And everything will be allright
orang lewat 11:36 on 12.18.2007 Permalink |
i am what i am now, and you what you’re now
just leave it as it be…
lalala semoga kosa katanya benar
hahaha :d
itu screen dari film hot fuzz, film mbanyol dari pemeran shaun of the dead kan? hahaha emang kas british
celo =3 16:08 on 12.18.2007 Permalink |
*maksa qzink ngejilatin lagi muntahannya sendiri*
it’s God wishes…
kurtubi 16:43 on 12.18.2007 Permalink |
sayangnya gak begitu faseh melafalkannya apalagi mengartikannya.. duuh ketinggalan jauhhhh
Lemon S. Sile 02:55 on 12.19.2007 Permalink |
@Roze:
Balthier dari FFXII, tapi di tWotL muncul sebagai playable cameo. Berguna banget tuch! Mustadio+Thief. Anehny lagi…nama keluarga/belakang mereka sama lho.
qzink666 05:42 on 12.19.2007 Permalink |
an absence of disaster and accident, the reassuring knowledge that no one in the community has anything against us, that the power above or below can dominate or hinder us, and that in Moslem/Christ a social and a cosmich peace will be achieved.
Nyambung gak nyambung yg penting ikut wanchicho..
alex 06:08 on 12.19.2007 Permalink |
Dan Lennon pun puas menciptakan lagu Imagine
rozenesia 13:30 on 12.19.2007 Permalink |
@ shinobigatakutmati: Guess what?
@ ekowanz: So on, milord.
@ benbego: Read the credits, milord.
@ qzink666 [1]: I beg your pardon?
@ extremusmilitis: Amen.
@ orang lewat: That’s right, fella.
@ celo =3: Amen.
@ kurtubi: So on, milord.
@ Lemon S. Sile: cis… FFT tWotL… Damn you PSP!!
@ qzink666 [2]: Moslem and Christian?
I beg your pardon, sir?
@ alex: F**king dead!
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